MoD ORDERS ISSUED DATED 30 SEP 2016 UPDATED 02 OCT 2016)
what you received in Dec, Jan or Feb - 2013 and deduct it from the min fitment as for full service. The difference what you arrive at be multiplied by our Famous MULTIPLICATION FACTOR = 143.404 . That's what you will soon be getting after the PCDA issues the circular to all Pension Payment Agencies ie your banks etc. We obviously presume that you have already received all arears of 6 CPC enhanced pensions and OROP. The working out with examples is given in our earlier post placed below in this post.. do scroll down..
33 YEARS RULE FOR FULL PENSION GOES .
The much awaited orders have been issued by Mod and are available on their web site . We have brought out these orders and have placed at the bottom of this post.
As had been said earlier in our earlier post all PMR cases irrespective of their QS (20 to 33 yrs) will get the pension as for full service eg all offrs who retired as Lt Cols or equivalent will have their basic pension enhanced to 26265/- from 01 Jan to 30 Jun 2014. It is very simple to get your arrears check your basic pension ( Continue below )
we are placing the tables below and the Govt letter even though placed at the bottom of this post may be downloaded from:-
http://www.desw.gov.in/sites/upload_files/desw/files/pdf/D(pen-pol-30.09.2016).pdf
Table A - Commissioned officers.
Table - B (JCOs OR - ARMY)
Table C (AIR FORCE)
Table D (NAVY)
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BACKGROUND : Shri MO Inasu, an Ex-Servicemen was re-employed in Central Govt Services in Kerala and had retired prior to Jan 2006. He filed a case in CAT Ernakulam, challenging the rule of 33 years. He pleaded that since this rule is not applicable for post-2006 retirees as also in accordance with the judgment of Hon’ble Supreme Court in Maj Gen SPS Vains Vs UOI case, the same benefit should also be extended to pre-2006 pensioners. CAT Ernakulam ruled that the said Rule of 33 years violates Art 14 and 16 of our Constitution as such should be abrogated. After a prolonged legal battle the H’ble Supreme Court upheld the judgment of CAT Ernakulam.
Therefore those officers / JCO and ORs who cannot mark up their Qualifying service for 33 Yrs even by including the rank weight-ages, such that all Sepoys who serve upto 15 years (extended by two years), Naiks and Havildars who cannot serve up to 33 years minus the Rank Weightage (Sepoy = 12 years; Naik = 10 years; Havildar = 8 years) as also who proceed on premature retirement would benefit in pension by knocking down this rule.
Ministry of Personnel, Pensions and Public Grievances has therefore been in the process of obtaining Govt sanction to remove this restriction of 33 years to all Pre–06 retirees for over 8 months which has so been obtained.
The Govt has finally issued orders to delink the Rule of 33 Yrs for Pre-2006 Retirees in line with the Recommendations of the 6th CPC for Post -2006 retirees which is placed below. The signed copy can also be downloaded through the link as placed there. PCDA(P) will soon issue implementation Circular for the Armed forces personnel. It has already issued Circular C-149 (Placed Below) for payments to be made to Defence Civilians,
HOW IT EFFECTS THE LESS THAN 33 YRS QS CASES - The principle behind delinking of QS for revision of pension for Pre 2006 retirees is the Supreme court ruling that "NO PENSIONER WILL GET PENSION LESS THAN 50% OF THE MINIMUM PAY IN PAY BAND (MP-in-PB) plus GP and MSP" corresponding to the rank and group of pensioner, as for the post 2006 retirees. There will thus be no pro rata reduction below this "MP in PB".
It means that the pension cannot be less than half of one's emoluments should he/she retire soon after being promoted or without earning any increment what so ever on completion of minimum qualifying service.
Therefore where ever one is getting pension lesser than this half of "MP-in-PB" the same stands to revision upwards. These figs of MP-in-PB must be known to every one from various instructions.
The QS however still remains linked for pensions which are more than the MP-in-PB like the pensions of Post 2006 retirees and the pensions under the OROP Scheme.
REVISION OF PENSION- Consequently PCDA(P) will soon issue instructions to Banks for the revision of the pension of all the Fauji PMR cases or where the officers, JCOs and ORs have not completed 33 yrs of service before retirement. It means that all Pre - 2006 retirees will get the same pension irrespective of the Qualifying Service (QS) they had rendered upto the time the OROP scheme got implemented.
To cite an example the full pension of a Lt Col with 28+5=33 years of service with rank weightage under 6 CPC has been Rs 26265/- per month, therefore, those who took premature retirement with less than 28 years of service will also get Rs 26265/- per month as Basic Pension upto 30 Jun 2014. The difference in pension paid and payable will be arrears from 01 Jan 2006 to 30 Jun 2014. With these provisions the Table given in PCDA (P) Circular No 500 will reduce to 2 lines only as below.
HOW TO WORK OUT ARREARS. We have endeavoured to give a very simple method of knowing your arrears that may accrue both for JCOs and ORs as well as for Officers. The first and foremost is to know your basic pension what you are getting. Most of the pensioners would know the same however one can easily calculate or verify the same 'Without Tears' as follows in case its not sure:-
1 . Note down the pensions from your pass book you got for the months of Jun, Jul, Dec 2015 and Jan-2016 before deduction of any TDS. The amount credited for Jun and Jul-15 should be same as also for Dec-15 and Jan-16. In case your commutation payment is still being deducted please note the figure per month. for the purpose of understanding let us suppose this amount to be Rs 4422/- per month. In case you have already paid for the commutation take this figure to be ZERO in place of 4422/- . Hypothetically let us also assume that you received Rs 44741/- for Jun as well as for Jul 2015 and Rs 46125/- for Dec-15 and Jan 16.
2. You will calculate your basic pension with this data as under :-
(a) From Jun & Jul - Basic Pension = (44741+4422) divided by 2.13 = 23081
(b) From Dec & Jan - Basic Pension = (46125+4422) divided by 2.19 = 23081
(Here 2.13 and 2.19 are constants corresponding to DA rates at that time)
3. Hence you basic pension entitled is Rs 23081/-
(This is, by the way, the fig for Lt Col with QS 22 Yrs as given in PCDA (P) Cir No 500.)
4. In order to work out your arrears proceed as under:-
(a) Difference 26265 - 23081 = Rs 3184 Per Month
(b) Arrears from 01 Jan 06 to 30 Jun 14 with DA incl = 3184 x 143.40 = 456586/-
(143.40 is a constant - For details see CONSTANT M.F Below).
(d) TOTAL = Rs 456586/-
5. Similarly by the said method any one can work out his own arrears, The full Pension for various Ranks of Pre-2006 Vintage under 6 CPC pd ( PCDA (P) Circular Number 500) are given in succeeding paragraphs.
"HAPPY - खुशयां मनाओ और सुप्रीम कोर्ट का शुक्रिया करो "
CONSTANT M.F (MULTIPLICATION FACTOR). In order to avoid month wise complicated calculations either manually or using Excel Sheets in Microsoft Office in Windows OS which is not every ones cake, our Maths Wizard has simplified the long Array of each month and the DA rates from time to time (t2t) has derived the constant factors together for a particular period. Constant 143.40 is for the period from 01 Jan 06 to 30 Jun 2014.
The constant for the entire period of 6th CPC for 10 years from 01 Jan 06 to 31 Dec 2015 has been worked out to be 181.74 which can be used by the affected pensioners mostly our Civilian Pensioners..
The amount of difference multiplied by this constant will give you the total amount for the period having taken into account the DR rates for each month pertaining to the pwriod.
FAMILY PENSION - There will be no change for Ordinary Family Pension since the same had already been de-linked from the 33 yrs of Rule for full pension and was termed as Min Guaranteed Family Pension (MGFP).
OROP SCHEME. Since the OROP Scheme has equalised the pensions of all retirees prior to 2014 this new development of delinking the 33 Yrs rule will effect only up to 30 Jun 2014
JCOs & ORs . Since the pensions of JCOs & ORs were not based on minimum pension of pay in pay band wef July-2009 as given in PCDA(P) Circular number 430, it is not yet clear as to how this will affect their pensions. However we have tried to give a simple method of knowing your likely arrears as mentioned in the succeeding paragraphs in case one has been getting pension lesser than the "MP-in-PB" figures shown in charts and tables in this post
It may have shortcomings as such we will seek input and views of veterans who are in better picture on the issue of JCOs and ORs. It is requested that further feed back on this be posted under the COMMENTS in this post. Please do write your Rank, Name and Email ID at the end of your comment as otherwise our reply may not be forthcoming.
OFFRS:-
BY ADDING THE RANK WEIGHTAGE OFFRS GET FULL PENSION i.e 50% OF THE MINIMUM PAY IN THE PAY BAND WITH THE SERVICE AS UNDER :-
These are the minimum figures of Pension based on 50% od the Pay in Pay Band in respect of officers as given in PCDA (O) Circular Number 500 including Grade Pay and Military Service Pay.
The Rank Weightages are shown under the Qualifying Service Figures in brackets as for for various ranks.
MEDICOS . In case of Medical Officers the figures as given in circular number 24 be taken as the 50% of Min of the Pay in Pay Band and arrears calculates as above. An extract of the table is placed below:-
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JCOs AND ORs:- (INCL EQUIVALENT RANKS OF IN & IAF)
These then are the figures of Minimum Pension for a Rank, Group and Categories irrespective of the years of service rendered by various ranks. In case one is getting more than these figures will continue to do so, however, where ever one has been getting lesser than these figures will be entitled to the benefit of this Delinked Rule, Full Pension for PMR Cases.
HOW TO GO ABOUT CALCULATION OF ARREARS OF JCOs & ORs.
1. With coming of this rule the arrears will be due to those persons who have been receiving Pension lesser than the 50% of "Minimum of Pay in Pay Band" wef 01 Jan 2006 to 30 June 2014 ie upto the date of implementation of the OROP Scheme.
2. Hence the first and foremost item to know is the "Min of Pay in Pay Band" pertaining to your Group and Rank. The above chart has been derived from various Circulars issued by PCDA(P). Do intimate in case there be some changes and modification is needed.
3. The amount by which you have been getting lesser than this amount is the Basic difference now payable per month.
4. In case of JCOs & ORs three Circulars ie 547, 430 and 501 are important. There will thus be three differences corresponding to periods as under :-
(a) Difference between MPinPB and figures in 547 from 01 Jan 2006 to 30 June 2009.
(b) Difference between MPinPB and figures of circulat 430 from 01 Jul 2009 to 23 Sep 2012.
(c) Difference between MPinPB and figures of Circular 501 from 24 Sep 2012 to 30 Jun 2014.
5. Note down these figures where ever they are less than the MPinPB. However in case they are higher than the MPinPB these are not to be taken into account and the difference be taken as Zero.
6. Multiply these three differences with Multiplication factors as under to add period and DA:-
(a) 01 Jan 2006 to 30 Jun 2009 = 46.02.
(b) 01 Jul 2009 to 23 Sep 2012. = 57.62
(c) 24 Sep 2012 to 30 Jun 2014. = 39.76
7. Add the results these are your likely Arrears.
Let us understand with the help of example of "Nb Sub / JWO / CPO" of "Y" Group. retired with 20 Yrs of service.....
(a) The "MPinPB" for Rank & Gp is Rs 16660/- hence the BASIC PENSION is half of it i.e Rs 8330/- .
(b) Pensions as per Circulars = 547 is Rs 6311, 430 is Rs 8088/- & 501 is Rs 8088/-
(c) Differences (1) 8330-6311= 2019, (2) 8330-8088= 242, (3) 8330-8088= 242.
NOTE - In case the pension figs of the Cicular are more than the "MP-in-PB", No arrears are due in such a case for the period and the current pension which is more than "MP-in-PB" will continue.
Arrears :-
(1) 2019X46.02=92914,
(2) 242X57.62= 13944,
(3) 242X38.76= 9622,
TOTAL = 116480
Its simple , Isn't it.
COMPARITIVE TABLE JCOs AND ORs - VARIOUS CIRCULARS
NOTE --
WE ARE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL TO VETERANS WHO HAVE SENT US FEEDBACK ON THE SUBJECT. ANY FURTHER OBSERVATIONS AND CORRECTIONS ARE MOST WELCOME PLEASE PEN THEM UNDER THE COMMENTS HERE UNDER.
KINDLY DO GIVE YOUR RANK, NAME & EMAIL ID UNDER YOUR NOTE, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS YOU WITH YOUR RANK APPROPRIATELY.
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MoD Letter on delinking of QS for PMR Cases Dt 30 sep 2016
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The Annexures A to D have already been placed above.
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MINISTRY OF PPG & P ( DEPT OF P & PW LETTER DATED 06 APR 16
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This data pertaining to minimum of pay in pay band ("MP-in-PB") for all groups and categories of JCOs and ORs and their equivalent ranks Navy and Air Force has been extracted from Circulars of PCDA (P) issued during the currency of 6 CPC is placed below in the table for the convenience of All Ranks other than officers..
These then are the figures of Minimum Pension for a Rank, Group and Categories irrespective of the years of service rendered by various ranks. In case one is getting more than these figures will continue to do so, however, where ever one has been getting lesser than these figures will be entitled to the benefit of this Delinked Rule, Full Pension for PMR Cases.
All other tables corresponding to 6th CPC are also available in this blog site and can be viewed under the post "PENSION JCOs & ORs (ARREARS)" at http://signals-parivaar.blogspot.in/2015/05/pension.html
HOW TO GO ABOUT CALCULATION OF ARREARS OF JCOs & ORs.
1. With coming of this rule the arrears will be due to those persons who have been receiving Pension lesser than the 50% of "Minimum of Pay in Pay Band" wef 01 Jan 2006 to 30 June 2014 ie upto the date of implementation of the OROP Scheme.
3. The amount by which you have been getting lesser than this amount is the Basic difference now payable per month.
4. In case of JCOs & ORs three Circulars ie 547, 430 and 501 are important. There will thus be three differences corresponding to periods as under :-
(a) Difference between MPinPB and figures in 547 from 01 Jan 2006 to 30 June 2009.
(b) Difference between MPinPB and figures of circulat 430 from 01 Jul 2009 to 23 Sep 2012.
(c) Difference between MPinPB and figures of Circular 501 from 24 Sep 2012 to 30 Jun 2014.
5. Note down these figures where ever they are less than the MPinPB. However in case they are higher than the MPinPB these are not to be taken into account and the difference be taken as Zero.
6. Multiply these three differences with Multiplication factors as under to add period and DA:-
(a) 01 Jan 2006 to 30 Jun 2009 = 46.02.
(b) 01 Jul 2009 to 23 Sep 2012. = 57.62
(c) 24 Sep 2012 to 30 Jun 2014. = 39.76
7. Add the results these are your likely Arrears.
Let us understand with the help of example of "Nb Sub / JWO / CPO" of "Y" Group. retired with 20 Yrs of service.....
(a) The "MPinPB" for Rank & Gp is Rs 16660/- hence the BASIC PENSION is half of it i.e Rs 8330/- .
(b) Pensions as per Circulars = 547 is Rs 6311, 430 is Rs 8088/- & 501 is Rs 8088/-
(c) Differences (1) 8330-6311= 2019, (2) 8330-8088= 242, (3) 8330-8088= 242.
NOTE - In case the pension figs of the Cicular are more than the "MP-in-PB", No arrears are due in such a case for the period and the current pension which is more than "MP-in-PB" will continue.
Arrears :-
(1) 2019X46.02=92914,
(2) 242X57.62= 13944,
(3) 242X38.76= 9622,
TOTAL = 116480
Its simple , Isn't it.
COMPARITIVE TABLE JCOs AND ORs - VARIOUS CIRCULARS
NOTE --
WE ARE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL TO VETERANS WHO HAVE SENT US FEEDBACK ON THE SUBJECT. ANY FURTHER OBSERVATIONS AND CORRECTIONS ARE MOST WELCOME PLEASE PEN THEM UNDER THE COMMENTS HERE UNDER.
KINDLY DO GIVE YOUR RANK, NAME & EMAIL ID UNDER YOUR NOTE, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS YOU WITH YOUR RANK APPROPRIATELY.
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MoD Letter on delinking of QS for PMR Cases Dt 30 sep 2016
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The Annexures A to D have already been placed above.
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MINISTRY OF PPG & P ( DEPT OF P & PW LETTER DATED 06 APR 16
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No. 38/37/08-P&PW (A)
Government of India
Ministry of Personnel, PG & Pensions Department
of Pension &
Pensioners' Welfare
3rd Floor, Lok Nayak Bhawan Khan Market,
New Delhi-110 003. Dated the 06th April, 2016
OFFICE MEMORANDUM
Snb:- Revision of pension of pre-2006 pensioners - delinking of revised
pension from qualifying service of 33 years.
The undersigned is directed to say that as per Para 4.2 of this Department's OM of even number dated 1.9.2008 relating
to revision of pension of pre-2006 pensioners
w.e.f. 1.1.2006, the revised pension w.e.f. 1.1.2006, in no case, shall be lower than 50% of the sum of the minimum of pay in the pay band and the
grade pay thereon corresponding to the pre-revised pay scale from which the pensioner had retired. A clarification was issued vide DoP&PW OM of even number dated 3.10.2008 that the pension calculated at 50% of the minimum
of pay in the pay band plus grade pay would be calculated at the
minimum of the pay in the pay band (irrespective of the pre-revised scale of pay) plus the grade pay corresponding to the pre-revised pay scale.
2.
Several petitions
were filed in the Central
Administrative Tribunal, Principal Bench, New Delhi inter alia claiming
that the revised
pension of the pre-2006 pensioners should not be less than 50% of the minimum of the pay band + grade pay, corresponding to the pre-revised pay scale from which pensioner
had retired, as arrived at with reference to the fitment
tables annexed to Ministry
of Finance, Department of Expenditure OM No. 1/1/2008-IC dated 30th August, 2008. Hon'ble
CAT, Principal Bench, New Delhi vide its common order dated 1.11.2011 in OA No.655/2010 and three other connected OAs directed to re-fix the pension of all pre-2006
retirees w.e.f. l.1.2006 based
on
the
Resolution
dated
29.8.2008
of the Department of Pension &
Pensioners' Welfare and in the light
of the observations of Hon'ble
CAT in that order.
3.
Orders were issued vide this Department's OM of even number dated 28.1.2013 for stepping up of pension
of pre-2006 pensioners w.e.f. 24.9.2012 to 50% of the minimum of pay in the pay band and grade pay corresponding to pre-revised pay scale from which
the pensioner retired.
Para 5 of this OM provides that in case the consolidated pension/family pension calculated as per para 4.1 of 0.M. No.38/37/08- P&PW (A) dated l.9.2008
is higher than the pension/family pension calculated in the manner indicated in the O.M. dated 28.1.2013, the same (higher
consolidated pension/family pension)
will continue to be treated as basic pension/family pension.
4.
Subsequently,
in compliance of the order dated 1.11.2011 of the Hon'ble CAT, Principal Bench in OA No. 655/2010,
order dated 29.4.2013
of Hon'ble High Court of Delhi in WP (C) No. 1535/2012
and order dated 17.3.2015 of Hon'ble Supreme
Court in SLP (C) No. 36148/2013, order were issued
vide this Department's OM of even number dated 30.7.2015 that the pension/family pension of all pre - 2006 pensioners/family pensioners may
be revised in accordance with this Department's
O.M. No.38/37/08-P&PW(A) dated
28.1.2013 with effect from 1.1.2006 instead
of 24.9.2012.
5.
In accordance with the order issued in implementation of the recommendation of the 6th CPC, the pension of Government servants
retired/retiring on or after 1.1.2006
has been delinked from qualifying service of 33 years. In OA No. 715/2012 filed
by Shri.
M.O. Inasu, a pre-2006 pensioner, Hon'ble CAT, Emakulam
Bench, vide its order dated 16.8.2013
directed that the revised pension
w.e.f. 1.1.2006 under para 4.2 of OM dated 1.9.2008
would not be reduced
based on the qualifying service
of less than 33 years. The appeals
filed by Department of Revenue in the Hon'ble
High Court of Kerala and in the Hon'ble Supreme
Court have also been dismissed. Similar
orders have been passed by Hon'ble CAT/High
Court in several
other cases also.
6.
The matter has
been examined in consultation with the Ministry
of Finance (Department
of Expenditure). It ·has--ll6w been decided that the revised consolidated pension of pre-2006
pensioners shall not be lower than 50% of the minimum of the pay in the Pay Band and the grade pay (wherever applicable) corresponding to the pre
revised pay scale as per fitment table without pro-rata
reduction of pension
even if they had qualifying service
ofless than 33 years at the time of retirement. Accordingly, Para 5 of this Department's OM of even number dated 28.1.2013 would stand deleted.
The arrears of revised pension
would be payable
with effect from 1.1.2006.
7.
Ministry of Agriculture, etc. are requested
to bring the contenwot'these orders to the notice of Controller of Accounts/Pay and Accounts Officers
and Attached and Subordinate Offices under
them for revising
the pension of all those
pre - 2006 pensioners who had rendered less than 33 years of qualifying service
at the time of retirement in the manner as indicated above on top priority. Revised Pension Payment Orders in all these cases may also be issued
inunediately.
8.
All pension disbursing offices/banks are also advised to prominently display these orders
on their notice
boards for the benefit of pensioners.
9.
This issues with the approval
of Ministry of Finance, Deptt.
of Expenditure vide ID Note No. 2(9)/EV/2015, dated 15.3.2016.
I0. Hindi version
will follow.
(SIGNED - SEEMA GUPTA)
Deputy Secretary to the Government
of India
To
1.
All Ministries/Departments of Government of India. (as
per standard mailing list).
2. All SCOVA Members
3.
All identified Pensioners Association
Copy to (i) NIC Cell for uploading on the website
of the Department.
(ii) AD (OL), DoPPW for Hindi Version
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YOUR OBSERVATIONS AND COMMENTS
Dear Veterans,
1. We at Signals-Family Portal are ordinary people in various matters concerning serving and Retired Govt Personnel, as such, do heavily bank upon inputs from our readers. Kindly do add, comment and give your observations on this or any other post aimed at improving the posted contents for the benefit of the veterans community.
2. Kindly post these under the comments, we will much appreciate your contribution in this regard.
3. In order to avoid spam and unwarranted or mischievous posts, only such entries will get published where the Person has given his RANK, NAME @ EMAIL ID at the end of his/her text.
4. We will do our best to post our response as quickly as possible after getting the facts vetted from offrs, JCOs and men who are more knowledgeable on particular subject.
With best wishes
Sincerely yours,
Brig Narinder Dhand (Veteran)
Dear Veterans,
1. We at Signals-Family Portal are ordinary people in various matters concerning serving and Retired Govt Personnel, as such, do heavily bank upon inputs from our readers. Kindly do add, comment and give your observations on this or any other post aimed at improving the posted contents for the benefit of the veterans community.
2. Kindly post these under the comments, we will much appreciate your contribution in this regard.
3. In order to avoid spam and unwarranted or mischievous posts, only such entries will get published where the Person has given his RANK, NAME @ EMAIL ID at the end of his/her text.
4. We will do our best to post our response as quickly as possible after getting the facts vetted from offrs, JCOs and men who are more knowledgeable on particular subject.
With best wishes
Sincerely yours,
Brig Narinder Dhand (Veteran)
Dear Sir,
ReplyDeleteWon't arrears would be only for the pd 01/01/06 to 30/06/14 since from 01jul orop is applicable and that is not related to weightage?
Satinder Sangha,Lt Col Retd.
Dear Sir,
ReplyDeleteWon't arrears would be only for the pd 01/01/06 to 30/06/14 since from 01jul orop is applicable and that is not related to weightage?
Satinder Sangha,Lt Col Retd.
Most probably the Arrears would be applicable only till 30 Jun 2014 since from 01 JUl 2014 ,OROP has been implemented
ReplyDeleteIn that case the multiplication will change
As mentioned the details will be known after the MOD letter is issued. However, I feel that arrears might be given only till June 2014, since OROP became applicable from July 2014. Unless, of course, they revise the OROP tables issued earlier ...
ReplyDeleteAs OROP is applicable from 01 Jul 2014 the arrears on account of delinking of 33 years will be for the period 01 Jan 2006 to 30 jun 2014 and not upto Mar 2016
ReplyDeleteRespected SIR,your notes above on jco and OR inadequate. My doubt is the full pension wef Jan 2006 as per the above circular if exceeds the one given in july09 and Sep 12 they have to pay us till Jun 2014.In my case full pension ie without prorata wef Jan 06is 6420 but paid wef Jan 06 rs 4186, wef Jul 09 rs4840, wef Sep 12 rs 5301/- and OROP rs 7550/-.PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME.Thank you Sir.
ReplyDeleteReply to above Note :-
ReplyDeleteAs I have already mentioned in the last para we are not sure how the MOD will work out the figures to "Not less than min of 50% of the Pay in Pay Band" because the pensions paid presently are not the Minimum of the Pay in Pay Band for JCOs and ORs unlike the pensions of Officers. These are pro-rata of the maximum pay (Top Of the Entitlement) of the Rank and Group in Pay Band.
However you are right once we know as to what is that figure it will be paid for the period from Jan-06 to Jun-09, Jul-09 to 23 Sep 2012 and lastly from 24 Sep 2012 to 30 Jun 2014.
I thus will not like to give out a figure which is not authentic, it may be too immature to that presently.
Brig Narinder Dhand
FURTHER TO MY NOTE ABOVE...
ReplyDeleteThe current pensions of JCOs and ORs are already above the minimum of the Pay in Pay Band for the Rank and Group as such I am apprehensive of the out come of these provisions.
I shall be grateful in case some one can give us the "Min Pay in Pay band" for each Rank in respect of JCOs and ORs and their equivalents in IN and IAF as per Special Instructions as applicable for 6th CPC.
Respected sir I ex Hav A.Jacob from corps of signals. Kindly confirm the circular c149 is applicable to jcos/ ors& I was paid as follows from 1.1.2006 : 4271/-,,1.7.09 : 5142/-&24.9.12.. 5877/- according to Brig .Vidyasagar sir there is some arrears approx 1.07 lakhs kindly confirm / advice
ReplyDeleteSir I ex hav A.Jacob retired from service on 15.8.87 this is for your information please.
ReplyDeleteThe letter reproduced here is meant for civilian employees and is listed on page http://pcdapension.nic.in/6cpc/civilOrder.htm
ReplyDeleteArmed Forces pensioners/Family pensioners need to wait for issue of a PCDA circular meant for them. It will be listed on this web-page: http://www.pcdapension.nic.in/6cpc/armyOrder.htm
Sir,
ReplyDeletePCDA (P) Circulars with pre-fix C are always for Civilians. Foe Armed Forces, PCDA (P) should be issuing a separate circular.
Dear Sir,
ReplyDeleteFor PBOR , you can refer CDA cir 542 for the Minimum fitment and also the CDA cir 547 Annexures.
Sgt.S.Kanthiah, veteran, exzwel trust.
sir, your above note is not coorect. JCO and OR are not gettingh more than the minimum of pay in the band. yes their pension calculated on maximum of the old pay scale but that is still less than the minimum of the pay of 6th cpc in my case my basic pension was fixed 4026 on 1-1-2006, Rs. 4840 on 01-07-2009 and Rs. 5301 on 24 sep 2012 where as minimum pension of a petty officer of Indian Navy is Rs. 6420/- (8040+2800+2000 =12840/2 = 6420).
ReplyDeletewith thanks
This circular is for civilian paid out of defence account. Any circular with c as suffix is for civilians only.
ReplyDeleteWe will have to wait till circular is issued for fauzies..
Winco Batra
Respected SIR, Namaste. IN IAF MIN OF PAY IN PAY BAND INCL GP AND MSP AND X GP IF APPLICALE FOR X GP. LAC. RS12890/-,CPL RS 13520/- SGT RS 15500/- JWO RS18340. WO RS20560/- MWO RS21970/- FOR Y GROUP. LAC RS 11050/-CPL RS11890/ SGT RS 12840/- JWO RS 16660/-WO RS18880. MWO RS 19360/- FOR Z GROUP. LAC RS10060/- CPL RS10650/- SGT RS12070/- JWO RS15880/- WO RS18080/- MWO RS 19080/- Detailed information Available net also under AFCAO - PAY & ALLOWANCES AIRMAN. Thank you Sir.
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU S ANA FOR YOUR VALUABLE INPUTS WHICH HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED IN THE TEXT OF THE BLOG SITE.
ReplyDeleteEVERY ONE WILL THUS GET THIS AS THE MINIMUM PENSION IRRESPECTIVE OF THE NUMBER OF YEARS OF SERVICE RENDERED.
Respected sir,what is your opinion abt casuality PENSION cases? any benefits to them in line with PCDA cir 542 which also has applicable minimum pay scales,sir your valuable comments pl
ReplyDeleteSir with due regards could u pl illustrate the magic multiplier of 143.40 to the difference of pension for offers and civilian
ReplyDeleteThe multiplier of 46.02 and 57.62 for jcos and ors is understood as it is based on DA rates sanctioned t2t by govt from 01 Jan 2006
Any constant multiplier should be uniform ally applicable to all veterans as DA is applicable uniformally to all veterans w.e.f. 01jan 2006
N.S. Chauhan Air Force Veteran
Respected SIR, Namaste. Still I have a bit confusion. In comment. Column Above I gave details of minimum of pay INCL grade pay and MSP for THREE group viz X group, Y GROUP and Also Z group in fitment as on 01.01.2006. In your chart above, sir you have given,for X AND Y GROUP only. Also Table annexed to Cir547 also contained pro-rata pension applicable as on 01.01.2006 for THREE GROUP IE X,Y,Z. Second doubt in the chart above for X group Sergeant you seem to have given the pension applicable for Sgt(Dip), the said annexure table to cir 547 differentiated Regular promoted Sergeant from direct Sgt (Dip) for prorata pension. Please oblige and enlighten me and clear my doubt and promote my knowledge. Sorry to disturb you and unduly sharing your GOLDEN TIME. With regards, By Sgt Anandaraman, veteran, email id. reeb7866@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteGood Afternoon Sir.... 50% of Minimum the Fitment table for Capt = 16145 and Grade pay = 6100,therefore the Revised Pension of Capt = 16145 + 6100 = 22,245 is this calculation Correct... kindly advise... thanks... Capt. Sher
ReplyDeleteATTENTION JCOs AND ORs
ReplyDeleteThere have been numerous mails on the Min of Pay in Pay Band in respect of JCOs and ORs and their equivalent Ranks in Navy and Air Force incl some special categories in these two services.
I am happy to obtain the authentic figures and upload in this web post. Please note that your pension will not be less than this irrespective of the length of your service before retirement provided you did the minimum pensionable service.
All the best, you can now get a fair idea of the arrears you will get once the MOD letter and the PCDA(P) circular is out, which again you will find here on this post.
Brig NK Dhand (Veteran)
PCDA has issued the circular for civilians, immediately, why they take so much time of the uniformed category?
ReplyDeleteSir,
ReplyDeleteYou have been very helpful to many officers and soldiers in a big way.Had this system of communication existed from a combined services team 40 years back,we would not have been at Jantar Mantar today.Better late than ever,today many are more well informed and are getting involved.
WGCDR BNRAO
From: annada sankar ray
ReplyDeleteSent: Thursday, 28 April, 2016 12:22 PM
To: nkd616@gmail.com
Subject: full pension or pro-rata pension
Good morning sir
I get your email id from signal paribar blog
sir i exserviceman indian navy retire on 31.01.2001(15 years 01 month service) ex petty officer(HAV).
sir i am eligible for arrear from 01.01.2006 to 30.06.2014.
sir pcda circular c149 for defence civilian already issued. for defence personnel when mod or pcda circular issued.
sir please reply i am eligible or not?
thanking you
REPLY As under :-
I understand that you are referring to the Premature cases.
The pensions of JCOs, NCOs and ORs were enhanced wef 01 July 2009
based on maximum of pension of the group and rank and not the minimum
pension as earlier.
We will have to wait for the Govt orders on payment which are under
processing presently.However, if you look up the minimum pension for a Petty Officer in my blogpost under PMR cases, the min basic pension figures are given there as 6420 for Y gp and 6035 for Z group. Therefore, in case your pension during this period had been less than this figure you should be entitled for the arrears of difference.
Brig NK Dhand
Sir... pls refer to my earlier mail on delinking of pension with 33 yrs... as per the GOI letter dated 06 Apr"16 The pension would be 50% of the minimum of the fitment table + Grade pay... consequently for a Capt. 50% of the minimum of the fitment table = 16145 and Grade pay = 6100 hence pension of Capt - 16145 + 6100 = 22,245 w.e.f. 01 / 01 / 2006.. Is this calculation correct ? Please advise.
ReplyDeleteSir,
ReplyDeleteDelinking of 33years of service was announced by Supreme Court close to a month.While civilian received their orders including PCDA(P)
Pensioners .What stop the PCDA (P) from working out the arrears.The calculation are simple and straight,were is the hitch.Time the Govt wake up and start toning the administration.Looks like only the court can step in and order.
Sir... the Pension is being calculated @ 50% of the minimum of the Fitment Table + Grade pay as per the latest Oreders of the Apex Court.. consequently the full Pension of a Capt. should be as- 16145(50% of the minimum of the Fitment Table = 32290) PLUS 6100(Grade pay) that is total = 22,245/- kindly advise if this calculation is Correct and if not what would be the FULL Pension of a CAPT. after removing the 33 years Rule... please reply to captsher@rediffmail.com / 9876645591... thanks and regards..Capt.SAS
ReplyDeleteRespected Sir
ReplyDeleteIt is great help to Ex servicemen pensioners with your generosity. Sir we shall be grateful if you let us know about approx arrears of Y Grp Hav with 16 yrs service shall receive in this increase. Thanking you sir
Dear sir
ReplyDeleteMy father expired in 6 dec2001 on duty who is in border security force my mother getting the pension her basic pension. is 4329 rs can my mother get the benefits of de linking of pension
Respected Sir in the comparison table for JCOs and ORs under circular 430 the max notional pay given for X group Nb Sub is given as RS 23020 and for Y group given as RS 24050.
ReplyDeleteIt is observed in all other rank pay X group is more than Y.There must be some error which I just noticed.
Please correct me if Iam wrong
Thankyou
Respected Sir
ReplyDeleteGood morning
first of all I like to thank you for your efforts to bring up such a good blog and articles
now to the point
sir GOI not implemented the cpc recommendation SL No 12 in its true spirit so all these litigation are come up and present OM is also a result of it
now also if goi gives a single FIG as MGP to a particular Rank irrespective of LS(from 15-33) again it leads to litigation as the cpc not recommended 50%(MGP) compulsory to all and not recommended removal of prorata also for pre 06 in its recommendations
the cpc recommendation states that the consolidated pension (with MF 1.86) should not be less than MGP so in my opinion the CP which is a prorata pension to be reversed to non prorata and then it should be compared with MGP and which ever is higher to be paid
thanks for giving opportunity to write
please correct me if Iam wrong
Will you please enlighten me on the matter elaborated in bhavani net or do you have nothing to say as blogger. We are not interested in publishing our comments but do we dire in need clarification. Keeping mum deemed closure of blog..
ReplyDeleteCan any of the readers respond to the above comment by Bhawani Net.
ReplyDeleteWHILE WRITING YOUR COMMENTS PLEASE WRITE YOUR RANK NAME AND EMAIL ID AT THE END WITHOUT WHICH AS A MATTER OF POLICY AS GIVEN IN THE POST, YOUR COMMENT MAY BE TAKEN AS SPAM.
ReplyDeleteIF YOU ARE A VETERAN BE PROUD TO MENTION YOUR RANK AND NAME EVEN IF IT IS LAC OR SEPOY.
BHAVANI NET DO INTRODUCE YOURSELF IN RESPONSE.
ReplyDeleteSir, with reference to the delinking of 33 years for full pension without pro rata reduction.. for a Capt. minimum of fitment table = 32,290 and grade pay is = 6100... therefore as per Orders of the Apex Court on its latest Order of Pension being not less than 50% of the Fitment table + Grade pay... therefore for a Capt pension would be 50% of 32,290 + GP 6100 implies as 16145 + 6100 = 22,245... kindly advise if this calculation is correct or if not why and what would be the Pension... thanks and regards.... Capt. Sher Amir Singh (Mob: 9876645591) email - captsher@rediffmail.com
ReplyDeleteSir thanks for the comprehensive information over arrers to pre 20006 retirees.
ReplyDeleteI am little bi confused to calculate my arrers being pre 1996 retiree.
Cir 430 fixemy penson @9324 wef 01.01.2006.
Cir 471 fixed as 50% of PB (
9300-34800)GP4200 @ MS 2000 @11970.
Cir 501 affirms @ 11970 revised wef 01.07.2009.
Cir 547 says @ 9440 wef 01 .01. 2006.
Pl oblige to illustrate my status ofarrers
SUB RAGHBIR SINGH GP-Y QS 28 Y
MY E mail id raghbir.sub@gmail.com
Good evening Sir,
ReplyDeleteby mistake I posted the previous comment without my details sorry for that it is not intentional
my details as follows
p.s.Rao
Ex Sgt
Sir, Can you clarify why the decision regarding this aspect is delayed in case of the Armed Forces where as all other civilian departments reacted within couple of days? A point you may consider valid is that from now onwards all discussion on OROP and the 7CPC must bring in examples while discussing the anamolies and corrections with regard to the PBOR and then followed by the officer's concerns. I keep seeing that there is an open resentment with the PBOR Veterans that officers are fighting for their pension improvements neglecting their lot. All discussions must be balanced and their pay/perk and pensions too must be discussed and scrutinised for corrections. Major AM Manohar (Veteran), Hyderabad.
ReplyDeleteSir iam pre 1996 retiree @ confused over to work out my pension arrers.
ReplyDeleteCir 430 fixed @ 9324 as basic.
Cir 471 fixed 50 % OF P B (9300-34800 -) WITH GP4200 &M S 2000 @ ₹ 11970 BASIC
CIR 501 CONFIRMED @ 11970 revised wef 01-07-2009.
Cir 547 fixed @ 9440 wef 01-01-2006.
Would you please oblige to illustrate my entitlement.
FROM SUB RAGHBIR SINGH GP 'y' QS - 28 'Y' ID raghbir.sub@gmail.com
Respected sir,
ReplyDeleteI have worked out fifty percent of the minimum of the fitment table for the Rank in the revised Pay Band as plus Grade Pay corresponding to the pre-revised scale from which the pensioner had retired including Military Service Pay and X group pay indicated under fitment tables as per GOI and your HQ letters. The table is as below.
Rank 5th CPC scale 6th CPC scale Grade pay MSP X' Gp pay Min pay of 5th CPC Min pay of 6th CPC Grade pay MSP X' Gp pay Total 50%
“X” Gp
(a) Sepoy 3600-70-4650 PB-1 5200-20200 2000 2000 1400 3600 1.86 6700 2000 2000 1400 12100 6050
(b) Naik 3700-85-4975 PB-1 5200-20200 2400 2000 1400 3700 1.86 6890 2400 2000 1400 12690 6345
(c) Hav 4150-100-5650 PB-1 5200-20200 2800 2000 1400 4150 1.86 7720 2800 2000 1400 13920 6960
(d) Nb Sub 5770-140-8290 PB-2 9300-34800 4200 2000 1400 5770 1.86 10740 4200 2000 1400 18340 9170
(e) Sub 6750-190-9790 PB-2 9300-34800 4600 2000 1400 6750 1.86 12560 4600 2000 1400 20560 10280
(f) Sub Maj 7250-200-10050 PB-2 9300-34800 4800 2000 1400 7250 1.86 13490 4800 2000 1400 21690 10845
“Y” GP
(a) Sepoy 3250-70-4300 PB-1 5200-20200 2000 2000 3250 1.86 6050 2000 2000 10050 5025
(b) Naik 3425-85-4700 PB-1 5200-20200 2400 2000 3425 1.86 6370 2400 2000 10770 5385
(c) Hav 3600-100-5100 PB-1 5200-20200 2800 2000 3600 1.86 6700 2800 2000 11500 5750
(d) Nb Sub 5620-140-8140 PB-2 9300-34800 4200 2000 5620 1.86 10450 4200 2000 16650 8325
(e) Sub 6600-170-9320 PB-2 9300-34800 4600 2000 6600 1.86 12280 4600 2000 18880 9440
(f) Sub Maj 6750-200-9550 PB-2 9300-34800 4800 2000 6750 1.86 12560 4800 2000 19360 9680
“Z” GP
(a) Sepoy 3050-55-3875 PB-1 5200-20200 2000 2000 3050 1.86 5670 2000 2000 9670 4835
(b) Naik 3150-70-4200 PB-1 5200-20200 2400 2000 3150 1.86 5860 2400 2000 10260 5130
(c) Hav 3250-85-4525 PB-1 5200-20200 2800 2000 3250 1.86 6050 2800 2000 10850 5425
(d) Nb Sub 5200-125-7450 PB-2 9300-34800 4200 2000 5200 1.86 9670 4200 2000 15870 7935
(e) Sub 6170-155-8650 PB-2 9300-34800 4600 2000 6170 1.86 11480 4600 2000 18080 9040
(f) Sub Maj 6600-200-9400 PB-2 9300-34800 4800 2000 6600 1.86 12280 4800 2000 19080 9540
The figures worked out are tallying with the Tables attached with your HQ Circular No. 502 Dated: 17th January 2013 and GOI, MOD, Dept of Exservicemen welfare letter No. 1(14)/2012/D(Pension/Policy) dated 3rd September, 2015.
Sir I am pre 1996 retiree and could not work out my arrers as
ReplyDeleteCir 430 fixed my pension wef JAN 2006 @ 9324.
Cir 471 fixed 50 % of( PB(9300 - 34800 ) with GP 4200 & M S -2000 @ 11970.
Cir 501 affirmed fixed @ 11970 wef JAN 2006 .
Cir 547 fixed @ 9440 wef JAN -2006.
Please oblige to illustrate my entitlement. Thanks
From sub raghbir Singh gp 'y' Qs 28 'y' my ld raghbir.sub@gmail.com
Pl REPLY
Good evening sir,
ReplyDeleteI, no 24485279h have Virendra pratap mishra am GP y havretired from army wef 01oct 2000. what will be my arrear.
My email ID is viru.mishra1963.vpm@gmail.com.
Please inform me
I think it is not applicable for PBOR, It is only for Offr and Civlian.
ReplyDeleteI think it is not applicable for PBOR, It is only for Offr and Civlian.
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteDear Veterans,
I know that most of your comments have not been published for want of your Email ID, Rank and Name, which is a must for us to respond. We are all military veterans as such our Rank comes before our names. We must be proud of the same even if its a sepoy or General.
Your email ID and your name in the body of your comment helps us to respond directly on individual matters which may not be of any consequence to any one else.
So please do remember to mention your Rank, Name and Email ID, and please don't be rude in what ever you write, it does not speak well of yourself.
Brig Narinder Dhand
RESPECTED SIR
ReplyDeleteMY FATHER IS IN BORDER SECURITY FORCE SI RAGHUBIR SINGH DIED ON SRINAGAR ON 06122001 DUE TO CARDIAC FAILURE..HIS TOTAL SERVICE IS 27 YEARS AND 1 MONTH MY MOTHER GET PENSION BASIC PENSION IS 4330..CAN THIS RULE DELINKING OF 33 YEARS IS APPLIED TO MY MOTHERS CASE.PLEASE REPLY
THANKS
MAHESH
My self B L YADAV retired on medical ground with a award of 20% in 1976 from y group sepoy after serving 7 years 9 monts & 3 days from army.
ReplyDeleteMy pension particulars are as under:-
Service element as on 01/01/2006 Rs-3500.00
Disability element as on 01/01/2006 Rs-1755.00 @50% & on wards
Service element from 24/09/2012 Rs-3685.00 &
on wards
I would like to know what will be my service element after d linking of 33 years for pension
Good after noon sir,
ReplyDeleteI (B L YADAV) retired from army on medical grounds,Let me inform basic
pension after d-linking of 33 yrs clause for full pension, My details are as under:-
Name B L YADAV
DOE 15/01/1969
DOD 18/10/1976
Rank Sepoy
QS 7.5 yrs
Dis Ele 20% for life
Group Y
Service element Rs-3500/- wef 01/01/2006
Service Element Rs-3685/- wef 24/09/2012
Disability Ele Rs-1755/- @ 50% from Jan 1996
Thanking you
B L YADAV
Rank Sepoy
Mail Id blyadav1951@gmail.com
Sir updation on arrers over delinking of 33 years clause to pre 2006 is requested.
ReplyDeleteReply.
Sir updating over delinking of
ReplyDelete33y clause and arrers there on to pre 2006 faujies is requested
.
Raghbir singh. Id.raghbir.sub@gmail.com
Reply
Sir I am please to work out my dilinked arrers as per Calculation.but achhey din kab ayange?
ReplyDeleteReply
Sub Raghbir singh.ID raghbir.sub@gmail.com
Dear Sir i made my comment on my humble request for liaising with BEAUROCRATS and make us known about where we on pending issues. It is only a request, whether feasible or Not, I am not in Knowledge. In case not feasible mine may ignored. BY EX SGT ANANDARAMAN IAF.
ReplyDeleteDear Sir i made my comment on my humble request for liaising with BEAUROCRATS and make us known about where we on pending issues. It is only a request, whether feasible or Not, I am not in Knowledge. In case not feasible mine may ignored. BY EX SGT ANANDARAMAN IAF.email I'd, reeb7866@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteSir I appreciate your valuable efforts to apprise the vetterns to know there entitlement from time to time.but still the essence of information elude as the latest updation over issue of any circulation regarding arrers to pre 2006 fauji pensioner after delinking 33 years clause.
ReplyDeleteReply
Sub Raghbir singh email id.raghbir.sub@gmail.com
Sir multiplication factor,I appreciate your efforts.sir would you pleas let us know the status of awaited circular from
ReplyDeleteDESW.
REPLY
SUB RAGHBIR SINGH EMAIL ID
raghbir.sub@gmail.com
Sir updation on issuance any circulation buy PCDA OVER DELINKING 33y, is requested.
ReplyDeleteReply
Sub raghbir singh .
Email ID raghbir.sub@gmail.com
Sir, why is there no order issued yet for paying pension and Arrears to the ex-servicemen w e f 1.1.2006 after delinking 33 years QS for full (50% ) pension as on date?
ReplyDeleteDear sir, Is there any development from DESW & PCDA for issuing letter for delinking of 33 years service to full pension for veterance. from Ex Sub Maj Prakash Pattar. Email ID prakashkpattar147@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteDear sir. Please refer PCDA circular No 502 dated 17 January 2013 in which same was actually issued for Enhanced/ ordinary rate of family pension. But this circular exactly worked out as per fitment formula based on Notional (Maximum) pay among three services and min pay in pay band as per fitment table plus Grade pay plus MSP plus X pay wherever applicable. But it is very much painful to know that DESW & PCDA are not interested in issuing the orders for delinking of 33 years for full pension. So, your association can only approach the DESW for issuing orders. From Ex Sub Maj Prakash Pattar Email ID prakashkpattar147@gmail.com.
ReplyDeleteSir the fate of pcda Cir over delinked of 33 y clause is still uncertain .would you please oblige to give some good news.
ReplyDeleteReply
Sub Raghbir Singh id raghbir.sub@gmail.com
This week it may come.
ReplyDeleteDear Subhash Yadav the use of
ReplyDelete{MAY} IS SPOILING element of any taste & confirms pessimism.
major kv chandrasekaran, I came out on PMR wef 15/5/1985 after being permanently superseeded, as a low med cat. After a great amount of correspond ace my friends at PCDA allahabad helped me to get my legitimate due of prorated pension (as per the orders prevalent then), @17102 which is 18205*31/33= 17102.I had occasion to talk to the gentle man who helped me in my earlier struggle and he confirms to me that the circular C-149 is to cover only civilian emplyees paid out of defence estimates and does not cover retired service personnel(veterens)and draft letter in this regard has been sent to MOD. If the BADA babus of the min of def do not condescend to issue the letter in question I wonder when we shall get our rightful dues should the IESM who sphereheaded the OROP issue should do something in this also
ReplyDeleteThe govt not reacting on arrears of pension delinking of 33years for 50% pension looks intentional.The CDA staff will mix up issues and take their own time to work out all arrears.Looks like the govt does not care for Defence pensioners or serving personnel.Looks like some one should find a way out from this logjam.Too many issues have piled up in Defence ministry and the govt is not moved at all.
ReplyDeleteRespected Sir,
ReplyDeleteAny further update on implementation of minimum pay revision by delinkimg with 33 yrs of service in r/o ExSM ???
I am afraid, implementation of 7CPC is only going to delay the matter further.
Plz do inform if there is any further development on the issue.
Sincerely
Ex-Sgt Madhu Sudan Gulati
1979 - 1994 in IAF
madhusudangulati@yahoo.co.in
Vijayan P,Karthia Bhavan, Power House Ward, Alappuzha 688 007
ReplyDeleteSir,
I retired from Army service after having 16 years 8 months and 19 days of service. I have visit the site every day. It is a matter of disappointment that after having a lapse of more than 3 months MOD has not yet issued any order. I hope that we will react against the MOD
Thanks
Thank you Sir for your effort, detailed calculations and responses for various cases. Your efforts are admirable. I had taken my premature retirement in 1992 after 20 yrs and 3 months. I am enjoying the benefits of the efforts of you and many others. May God Bless you all for your kind efforts.
ReplyDeleteWg Cdr Thomas Verghese (Retd)
Jal Vayu Vihar, Bangalore
I have filed online RTI with DESW on 25 July 2016 as under
ReplyDeleteKindly furnish the following information with respect to De-linking of 33
years service for 50% pension to pre-2006 army officers pensioners,
1) Whether Govt has accepted in principle to De-link 33 years service for granting 50% pension to pre-2006 army officer pensioners.
2) If so the reason for delay in issuing the relevant circular even after issuing the same to civilian pensioners 2 months ago.
3) Can you furnish a probable date of issuing the circular
Dear Sir,
ReplyDeletewhen are the orders for 33years de-linking likely to be issued and in case is it is issued please quote the letter as circular no 149 does not pertain to regular Armed forces personnel
Major DS Bhati
Dear Sir
ReplyDeleteAny update on this issue as all other Govt departments have received except Armed Forces.
Thanks and Rgds
Cdr C R Babu (Retd)
Sir, There will be variation of OROP pension effective July 1, 2014 as originally OROP was based on actual service plus weightage. For Lt Col pension at 21 years was 21,000 approx and enhanced to approx 31,000 due to OROP. So OROP pensioners will have to get arrears from July 01 2014 to date as with OROP pension goes up to 34425 approx. plus DA due DL of 33 years.
ReplyDeleteLt Col JAS Diaz (Retd)
ReplyDeletejas.diaz@gmail.com
Two points:
1. The QS shown in my PPO is same as physical service without any rank weight-age. This is same for many of my colleagues.
2. You had mentioned the arrears are NOT applicable after 30 Jun 2014 since the OROP had been implemented. But the OROP table has figures till 33 years.
How to reconcile this?
Good morning sir,
ReplyDeleteA great service to the pensioners who r in dark
Sgt.Mahadevan.S
maha0802@hotmail.com
Sir no arrear paid by cppc obc till 2017 my rank is nk gp x service 17 yr 6 moth
ReplyDeleteSir thanks for the comprehensive information over arrers to pre 20006 retirees.
DeleteI am little confused to calculate my arrers being pre 1996 retiree.
Cir 430 fixemy pension @9324 wef 01.01.2006.
Cir 471 fixed as 50% of PB (
9300-34800)GP4200 @ MS 2000 @11970.
Cir 501 affirms @ 11970 revised wef 01.07.2009.
Cir 547 says @ 9440 wef 01 .01. 2006.
Pl oblige to illustrate my status ofarrers
From:Sub Manickam Pakkiri Kaliyamoorthy, Subedar, 28 years service, Gp Y. kaliyamoorthymanickampakkiri@gmail.com